The Healthy Me Podcast

The Power of Essential Oils | The Healthy Me Podcast Episode 004

Welcome to The Healthy Me episode number 004… I’m Trina Felber, Registered Nurse and CEO of Primal Life Organics.

Honking horns…

Miles of traffic…

Dings and pings and alerts on your phone…

These are just a few of the everyday attention-eating stressors that—when combined with your responsibilities at home and at the office—can lead to monumental setbacks for your mental and physical health.

Now factor in environmental toxins—like aluminum in your deodorant and pesticide residue on your food—and all of a sudden living in the modern era seems less like a privilege and more like a taxing burden.

The media is quick to laud the plusses and perks of smart devices, soaring stock markets, and scientifically-engineered crops, but what about the inherent risks of all that advancement? It feels like the profiteers and pundits are painting an artificially rosy picture that’s all reward and zero risk.

So today, you’re going to learn about the other side of modern-life coin, from my guest, Jodi Cohen.

In addition to being the founder of Vibrant Blue Oils, Jodi is a nutritional therapy practitioner, award-winning journalist, yoga enthusiast, and busy mom of two young kids.

Her proprietary essential oil blends—which started with a shot glass in the kitchen—empower every day individuals like you and me to detoxify the body and heal the brain so we can live and love more freely and fully.

So, sit back, relax, and get ready to listen to Jodi as she shares her very best advice for combating stress, getting better sleep, and living an all-around healthier life.


Trina Felber: Welcome to ‘The Healthy Me,’ episode four. I’m Trina Felber, Registered Nurse and CEO of Primal Life Organics. I believe there is a healthy person living within everyone. ‘The Healthy Me’ is designed to help you call up your healthy self, step out of your comfort zone, shake things up and get results. Let’s find and empower your ‘Healthy Me.’

Today, I am joined by Jodi Cohen, founder of Vibrant Blue Oils. She is a nutritional therapy practitioner, award-winning journalist, yoga enthusiast, and busy mom of two young kids; and I know what that’s like. Her journey to essential oils began with her own health struggles. She was anxious, exhausted, and her kids weren’t sleeping. They were struggling with attention and focus issues.

Trying everything she could think of, including intensive, restrictive diets that were exhausting to implement and sustain, loads of expensive supplements, and all sorts of therapies. They all helped a little, but underlying issues lingered. Essential oils changed all that. They worked immediately and powerfully, and were not exhausting and expensive to maintain. Her kids even liked them so much that they asked for them; which was never the case with kale, no matter how much effort went into preparing it. I love that.

She has devoted her time, energy, and passion to creating proprietary blends and the education to support them to empower individuals, like you, and me, and healthcare practitioners to integrate essential oils into their lives so they can heal.

Jodi, welcome.

Jodi Cohen: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Trina Felber: Absolutely. First of all, I want to say Jodi and I have had the pleasure of meeting. Over a year ago, we met at a mind-share event put on by JJ Virgin; and where health practitioners from around the world come to collaborate and share. It was a joy to meet you. We connected right away. I love what you have to offer because I’m a total believer, obviously, in essential oil therapy.

Jodi Cohen: Thank you, and I love what you have to offer, too. It’s really interesting. I’ve got some thyroid issues that give me really dry skin, and your formulations are the best I’ve ever found. They’re fantastic, and I love them. They’re so helpful It was like treading water. It would get me through that day, and then I’d need more the next day. Finally, I realized I wasn’t exfoliating, and so I had all this dead skin that was blocking the nutrients from getting to me. Once I added that in, it was like, oh my god, my skin got so much better so quickly. It’s sometimes those tiny things.

Trina Felber: Well, it’s the tiny things. When you say that, that’s really funny, because I just had a customer …

I did a Facebook Live last week, and someone was asking me, “Do I really need to exfoliate?”

I said, “Well, if you think about putting a Band-Aid on your skin, and then trying to put oil or really good moisturizer on top of that Band-Aid. A little bit might soak in, but you have to rip the Band-Aid off and those dead skin cells really are preventative of allowing a lot of that to seep in,” so thank you. You just reiterated exactly what I said.

Jodi Cohen: It’s so true. It’s true with our body, too. So much of the nutritional advice, it’s not wrong. It’s great. It’s like you need fat for the brain. You need this, and it’s 100% true; but what they’re not realizing is that you need to make room in the cell for the nutrients by cleaning out the garbage.

Trina Felber: The garbage.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: It’s all about cell. Tell me about Vibrant Blue Oils. Tell me about you, how you got started, what’s … what was your passion behind this? I know there’s a huge passion behind this.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, you know it was kind of an accident. I got into nutrition. My second child had some behavioral issues. One day we were on a group play date.

My friend was like, “Oh my gosh, he’s behaving so well.” You have this proud moment of like, ‘Oh, I’m such a good mom.’ Then someone passed out Ritz crackers as a snack and he literally Jekyll-Hyded. He picked up a shovel and hit the kid next to him.

She said, “Oh my gosh. I’ve never seen that reaction from him from food. You know, my brother was on ritalin his whole life and it turned out he was just allergic to weird foods. You should look at that.” I thought, ‘I can do that. I’ve done everything else. Why not?’ We changed his diet and his whole demeanor changed. His behavior changed.

He used to be like, “Look at my nose,” and he was all over the place. Then, we did, “Look at my nose.” He’s like, ‘Oh, okay, mom. What do you mean?’

Trina Felber: Wow.

Jodi Cohen: It was so profound that I got into nutrition. I went totally gluten and dairy free, and stopped shopping at Costco and starting making everything; which is really labor intensive. It got him pretty far, but we weren’t … It was like treading water, but you weren’t totally on shore.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: Then, his dad is bi-polar, and that was a kind of onset after we had children. I honestly didn’t know what it was, or what to do. I was just trying to keep the plates all spinning. I was overfunctioning for him, and overfunctioning with my kids. Ultimately, he really crashed hard and had to be hospitalized. The minute he was safe and it wasn’t my job to keep him safe, I collapsed; because it was finally safe for me to fall apart.

Trina Felber: Well you were exhausted.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. It was adrenal fatigue, I think, times like 20.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: But you know, you have kids. You have to still … Someone has to make them breakfast, and pack their lunch, and get them to school.

Trina Felber: You do what you have to do when you have to do it. As soon as something gives and you can fall apart, you fall apart. You have no choice.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: Your body gives out, but your body is resilient. You know that. Your body is resilient and will do whatever it has to do to fight. That’s the fight or flight, the sympathetic nervous system-

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: … in action. It’s almost impossible to convert it back to a sympathetic system, or the parasympathetic system.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. It’s very hard. That’s 100% right, and that’s what happened to me. It’s called sympathetic dominance, or sympathetic overdrive. It’s a little bit like you get stuck … If you think about changing gears when you’re driving, you get stuck in high speed and you can’t downshift because you’re just trapped.

Trina Felber: I think that a lot of the world functions in the sympathetic system.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: Sympathetic nervous system. I think like on a day-to-day basis, society functions on that stress and anxiety, and ‘I have to get it done, and my cell phone keeps going off. And I have to answer that text, and I have to check my Facebook, and I have to do this.’ That’s all bombarding us and our sympathetic nervous system can’t process it fast enough.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: Help us convert … because what you’ve done is figured out a way … I wanted to know, I know you talked a little bit at the mind share about the science behind it. I also want to touch on the science behind why and how can we convert pretty easily into our parasynthetic. Let’s talk a little bit about the difference between the parasympathetic and the sympathetic nervous system.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. Well really quickly, so what happened is someone gave me oils.

Trina Felber: Oh yeah.

Jodi Cohen: Somehow, I was so … Desperation is the mother of all invention. I tested them like I would supplements, and made some formulas. To that point, I had been practicing yoga for a long time. I knew that deep breathing really helped, and I’m a kind of a lifelong learner and a research geek. I figured out it’s this vagul nerve. This vagul nerve that starts at the back of our neck and kind of wraps around. It’s really accessible right here. Then, through every organ in the digestion, and the heart, and the kidneys; and every organ that really you need to function.

You’re exactly right, so when there’s an emergency, be it a lion chasing us or … I think of traffic. How often is another car going to change into your lane and they don’t see you. You mobilize. You press the horn, maybe you slow down or speed up. Somehow you avert an accident. Then, what’s supposed to happen and what happens in that case is that the blood rushes to the external organs, to the muscles, so that you can run fast and flee. You mobilize energy as sugar. Then, you’re supposed to …

In the old days, the tiger was chasing you. You would run really fast. You’d collapse, and then you’d return to normal and you’d reset. There’s a great book, ‘Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers.’

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: … that’s because they’re out in nature, and they’re running really fast and they collapse. What happens in modern, you’re exactly right. It can even be this political environment is so stressful that checking Facebook can make you kind of adrenalized. That’s anticipatory stress. If you think about it … If your village burned down because of fire, and suddenly you smell fire, you’re going to go into that hyper response.

Anything, it could even be a memory of abuse or trauma. If you’re on the replay button, that can trigger the stress response. It’s very easy to get stuck in that sympathetic survival state where everything that’s not critical to survival basically is shut down. That includes your immune system and your ability to … anti … or to inflame; because if you’re running fast and you twist your ankle, and it blows up, then guess what happens? The lion’s going to eat you. That gets down regulated, and that’s fine for a while.

Trina Felber: Yeah, you can’t function like that.

Jodi Cohen: … your immune system is turned off for two years, that’s why people suddenly like, ‘Oh, I suddenly have cancer,’ or, ‘I suddenly have autoimmunity.’ No, it’s that the stress basically was so strong that the immune system turned off.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: And wasn’t functioning. Then, all these viruses that were dormant kind of took over.

Trina Felber: Yeah, and so that’s exactly what happened with you.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: You collapsed, pretty much.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, totally.

Trina Felber: Yeah. You ended up with this gift of oils, essential oils. How did that change your life?

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, it was interesting. The friends showed up and they brought this big box of oils.

They said, “This is going to help you.” I didn’t really know what they were … I couldn’t really comprehend it. Then they left and I was too … My brain was so frazzled, I couldn’t deal with going online and researching. I just thought, ‘Well, I test people all day long for supplements. I know how to do that, and I know it’s my adrenals. Is anything in here going to help my adrenals?’

I tested them and got five oils, which felt like a lot. Then, I got this idea, ‘Oh, I can combine them.’ I went in the kitchen, and I was such a novice. I literally pulled out a shot glass and was like, ‘Okay-‘

Trina Felber: … that’s how it always starts, a shot glass, right? No.

Jodi Cohen: It was, it was an amazing shot. I made my own little potion and I was … You have these voices that are self doubt like, ‘What am I doing?’ Then, I applied them on my low back, on my adrenals. I’m a lifelong runner. The thing that was the most surprising to me when I hit rock bottom, running always brought me joy.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: But in that moment, it was too … I couldn’t even fathom running. It just felt like too much. I didn’t do it for a while, which was unusual for me.

Suddenly, I was like, “Oh my god, I could go running.” I felt like me again. I went running, and then I came home. I was like, “Oh my god, I could take a shower.” I shower every day, but when you’re depressed, that feels like a chore.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: Then, I did the dishes, and did the laundry, and went to the supermarket, and all these things that felt like too much. I realized there’s something really here, and I didn’t know why they worked; but I just … I created one for insomnia. Then, because I had been doing yoga for so long and was obsessed with the parasympathetic state and the vagus nerve, I had done some research. They actually began implanting this kind of … almost pacemaker-like device right here, which would stimulate the vagus nerve to trigger the parasympathetic response. They were finding it was really helpful for depression, and epilepsy, and all these things. It always kind of stood out in my mind, like [inaudible 00:12:02] has all these techniques you can gag yourself until you start to cry.

Trina Felber: That sounds great.

Jodi Cohen: You can gargle … I know, it does sound real appealing, right? Splash your face with freezing water. There are a lot of ways to trigger the vagus nerve that all felt kind of invasive and uncomfortable.

I was like, “Oh, I wonder if I could do it with oils.” It’s so interesting to me. I tested clove and lime worked. It turns out clove is the most stimulatory oil.

Trina Felber: Wow.

Jodi Cohen: Then, lime has the smallest molecules. It’s a little bit like when two … When two people marry each other and sometimes the children get the best features of both parents.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: It’s a little bit like a blend. You can take really small moles and combine them with really stimulatory … and what’s interesting is the brain requires small molecules to pass through. Only the smallest molecules can pass through the blood brain barrier.

Trina Felber: Yeah, the blood brain barrier. It’s a protective mechanism built by the body to prevent any large molecules to cross over and contaminate or cause issues. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry, that’s …

Jodi Cohen: No, thank you. No. That was perfect definition, you’re spot on. What else is interesting is that fat solubility seems to help facilitate easier passage, like even really small water molecules can’t get through. I believe this is one reason that essentially fatty acids, like omega 3s, are so good.

Trina Felber: Oh yeah.

Jodi Cohen: Or if you do a lot of nutritional work, a lot of liposomal remedies like liposomal melatonin seems to be more effective than pills.

Trina Felber: Well, and on another note, my expertise comes in with … Your brain is majority fat.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: The makeup of your brain is mostly fat. You want fat in fat, because like … compliments like.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: The only part … The other problem, though. Here’s the flip side of how true this is. Deodorants that contain aluminum.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: Can be … The aluminum can pass through. It loves fatty tissue.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: One of the closest … like from your under arm, one of the closest fatty tissues is your brain. That’s why the aluminum has been linked to Alzheimer’s victims. They found the aluminum in the brains of Alzheimer’s victims.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: It’s true. It’s proof that things can get in. It does pass, good or bad. Regardless, we want the good in there, not the bad.

Jodi Cohen: Yes, yeah. Well, and that’s also … You’re 100% right, that’s how aluminum gets in. It’s also … it helps to get aluminum out.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: There are ways, like melatonin and some of our oils that kind of help open up the lymphatic system.

Trina Felber: Talk about that, yeah.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, that’s exactly what we’re finding is that … So oils are kind of like … You know that hard part of your back to scratch, like neither arm can reach it? You need maybe a backscratcher or someone else’s hand to get there.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: The brain is kind of that. It’s really hard to get the right remedy into the right region of the brain. Food and supplements, they have to go through the digestive channels. They don’t always get there, so it’s hard to get things in and it’s hard to get things out. Our neck is kind of the main doorway to get the good things in and the bad things out. That’s where the bottleneck occurs. A lot of practitioners, chiropractors, they’re working here to here.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: This is why traumatic brain injuries and concussions, anything that kind of compromises either the bones, the veins, the lymphs, or the nerves, impedes the ability to get the blood rich oxygen into the brain and the toxins out.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: This is where essential oils I think play a really nice role. I would never say they cure everything.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: I think they’re really nice and they have the potential to cure a lot, but where they really shine is helping you move things in and out of the neck to the brain.

Trina Felber: It’s … in the realm of health and … fitness, and beauty, and all of that, we all know it’s not just diet. It’s exercise, too.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: It’s not just skincare, it’s what you’re eating. It’s not just putting things in your body. It’s getting them out.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: It’s not … It’s an adjunct to what you’re doing. It’s not just taking supplements, but it’s putting a supplement someplace else that could possibly work better just because of the way it’s formulated and the way your body absorbs it, and the way that it actually can get into the place that you want it to get in.

Jodi Cohen: Exactly, it’s layering. It’s like biking with the wind at your back. When you combine exfoliating and moisture, the combination is better than the single. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Or dry skin. It just means that the nutrients aren’t necessarily getting in and the toxins aren’t necessarily leaving the cells, and getting into the lymph, and being able to exit. There are a lot of reasons for that, right?

One of them is kind of what I call the bottleneck and congestion in the neck area. Structure is important. Going to see a chiropractor, making sure you have alignment. Then also, one of the things that we both know about, the toxins in the mouth, right? It can be from dental cavitations, from a root canal, or a wisdom tooth. It can be from amalgams. It can be any sort of infection, and where does that drain? It drains right here.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: If there is an infection in the mouth, it goes here to drain. It can’t drain because the lymph isn’t moving. It stays here and there is transport system where it can actually get into the vasculature. Instead of going down, it can go back up.

Trina Felber: Up, yeah.

Jodi Cohen: It can infect this vagus nerve. This is what we often see with autism. If there’s any kind of metal that gets into the brain, which can happen because they give so much aluminum combined in those vaccines. Then, it basically toxifies this nerve. If this nerve is toxified, then it cannot send the signal downstream. It can’t send the neurotransmitter acetylcholine to tell the heart rate to slow down. This is why you see root canals correlated with heart attacks, because they have a root canal, then they get an infection. The infection infects the vagus nerve, the vagus nerve can’t send the signal to slow the heart rate down and you have a heart attack.

Trina Felber: Wow.

Jodi Cohen: What we’re trying to do with oils is kind of clean out … It’s almost like a traffic accident. We’re trying to send the ambulance to come clean things up so that the lanes are opened, so that nutrients can flow both ways; so that you can open up the vasculature and circulation. The blood can get into the brain and also drain out. The lymphatic system piggybacks on the circulatory system, so we also want to move the lymph out. Then, if there’s any toxicity in the nerve that it’s a little bit like a bottleneck. You just can’t get through. We’re trying to break that up by manually stimulating the vagus nerve so that all the downstream function works. That drops you into the parasynthetic state and everything else.

Trina Felber: You’re talking about right behind the ears. For our listeners that are listening, not viewing, because we have this as an audio as well as the video. Describe exactly what you’re talking about. Does it work when you put it on your wrist, or are you primarily focusing on the vagus nerve and the area behind your ear?

Jodi Cohen: You know what’s interesting is it does work in different areas. It works best when you put it … If you feel right behind your earlobe?

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: At the bottom of your earlobe, and you feel that bone.

Trina Felber: Yeah, that ridge.

Jodi Cohen: … mastoid bone.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: That is exactly where this vagus nerve is most accessible to the surface. If you put an oil there, it pretty much goes immediately into the nerve and stimulates it. If you’re sensitive to oils, smelling it also seems to work.

Trina Felber: Okay. Let’s talk for a minute about what you’ve created, because you’ve created some specific … I want to say ‘oil blends.’

Jodi Cohen: Correct.

Trina Felber: For like sleep.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: I know I’ve used the sleep and the parasympathetic, and I love them. Actually, I took the parasympathetic with me when we went on vacation. I have the little one that you had given me.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: I had that in my bag. Every time we go on vacation, because the kids are always up and they’re wild and crazy. When it’s bedtime, I take out the oil and I put a drop. I will rub it behind their ears so that they can convert to this parasympathetic and go to sleep nice and calm. They love it. That’s what they look forward to. Talk a little bit about what you’ve created, and the blends, and why, or …

Jodi Cohen: Yeah. Well, one thing that I found, it’s really interesting. The oils become super popular. There are really great resources that tell you what every single oil does. I don’t believe in reinventing the wheel. Someone’s already doing that well. What I found though, which is interesting to me, is that when you combine the oils, it’s almost an all chemical experience. It changes them. It’s like if you’ve ever gone to a restaurant and they have a dish that … has foods that you would never think to combine, but somehow it’s amazing. It tastes totally different. That’s what you can do with oils. You can take the stimulatory effect of one and the small molecules of another and you create something that’s totally different. What I’m really trying to do is bring the body back into balance.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: Because I believe when the body is in balance, it can heal. Part of that is kind of … It’s almost like rebooting your phone, right? It’s glitching. You don’t quite know what’s going on and you just turn it off and turn it back on; and it kind of works again. I feel like the body could do that a little bit, too. It’s almost like there’s this blueprint of the way we’re supposed to be. That’s how stem cells form when you’re a fetus. It goes into perfect alignment and then wear and tear, or whatever. You kind of wear it out. This is one reason that stem cell injections I think work. Did I lose you, because it’s kind of like-

Trina Felber: Nope.

Jodi Cohen: … as long as you return to the blueprint, the original blueprint.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: The original reboot, the factory installation, you’re good. Oils and plants have the same kind of blueprint as humans.

Trina Felber: Yeah. Well, you’re speaking my language. I think a lot of my customers, viewers, fans, whatever, family, extended family out there, from Primal Life Organics as well as ‘The Healthy Me,’ speak the same language of balance and returning the balance that we were given. Whether that be your stem cell, which is your basic cell that can convert into anything. Stem cell therapy has become so popular and is gaining popularity because it’s so effective. Resetting the body back to neutral is sort of like the parasympathetic-

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: … mode that you’re talking about. We function … I don’t know if people understand this out there. It happened to me as well. What you described also happened to me in a different way, building a family, building a business, and all the stress that goes along with it. Then, when I finally had my team, I sort of crashed. That’s when some of the illnesses, and my back pain, and things like that, started to surface because they could.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: The same type of things that you talk about; but I didn’t realize I was really in the sympathetic mode all the time. It wasn’t even like at night time, I could … You think you’re asleep, but you’re really not. I talked in the past, too, about really your brain doesn’t even know that it’s time to go to sleep. I have a sleep app, and I monitor it. It wasn’t until recently that I started going to bed and telling my brain, ‘Go to sleep.’

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: ‘Go to a deep sleep. It’s okay, go to sleep.’ It’s amazing the nights I forget to do that, I’m all over the place on my sleep app. When I tell my brain to go to sleep, I go up and I’m in a deep sleep until I wake up. It’s the same type of thing that you … your body is going to move.

Like motion stays in motion, so your body’s going to move until you make the break and say, “Here, you can calm down and stop.”

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: That’s what the parasympathetic; but we’re such in a driven state.

Jodi Cohen: Well, and I love that. I think that’s a wonderful takeaway for listeners. If you get nothing else out of this, tell your brain to go to sleep. You can use my oil, any oil. Just give yourself that permission to shift gears.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: … back to balance. Sleep, there’s one thing I want to say about that. One of the reasons that we have this sleep oil; sleep is the most healing thing. It’s not just that your body rests and repairs; but they now know that there is a lymphatic system in your brain. It’s basically like it can’t turn on when you’re awake. You have to be in deep sleep. Then, the brain actually shrinks and shuts down, and allows this-

Trina Felber: And that’s detoxifying.

Jodi Cohen: Right, right. That’s … If you’re not detoxifying your brain, then the toxins never get out. It’s kind of like our house has become the house where my kids’ friends hang out. We often have ten people here. I love them, I love them, love them; but when they leave and I’m able to clean the entire house and vacuum, and throw out all the garbage, I’m kind of thrilled, too. You need to clean house.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: If you’re sleeping, an app is good. Some melatonin is good. We have an oil called ‘circadian rhythm.’

Trina Felber: Yeah, and how … for your oils, how often do you recommend using them? If you’re using the parasympathetic one because you feel like you’re always in the adrenal mode, or the parasympathetic mode.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: What is the recommendation to be effective, especially when you’re just starting?

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: Is a starting dose more than a maintenance dose? Talk about that, how you would actually use-

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, that’s a great … Yeah, because therapeutic is … It’s a little bit like minimum before meals, and just a little bit before meals. Maximum, it could be all the time. When I was having … I used to have panic attacks. I would carry it with me, actually smelling it through the left nostril. This is interesting, when you’re having anxiety-

Trina Felber: Oh yeah.

Jodi Cohen: … frontal lobe that’s overacting.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: If you stimulate the left lobe by smelling something through the left nostril, that helps immediately.

Trina Felber: Wait, say that again. That is so cool. That’s so important. My people would … like everybody out there would love that.

Jodi Cohen: Okay.

Trina Felber: If you’re smelling … is it certain essential oils? I know you have your parasympathetic mode.

Jodi Cohen: They could even go to the supermarket and buy lavender. It doesn’t matter. They can use-

Trina Felber: It’s … closing your right nostril and sniffing through your left.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, you smell it through your left nostril because the olfactory system is actually … the factory cells are brain cells.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: The noise is the only area where the brain is directly exposed to the environment. If you smell something through your left nostril, it immediately travels up and stimulates the left frontal lobe. That is the easiest way, especially for you, for your children. I have a perfectionist who gets really anxious about homework. We do that a lot, and that’s a really-

Trina Felber: Well let me tell you in anesthesia, because that’s my background is anesthesia.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: Inhalation inductions, that’s the reason we do them because you inhale the anesthetic. It goes straight to your brain and puts you to sleep very quickly. It’s this same method as what you’re talking about.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: It’s the same idea. You can quickly get that response. It’s one of the fastest responses, guys, out there. If you want to calm yourself or calm your child, that’s a quick response using an essential oil. Kudos.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, no. That kind of saved my life. I hope no one has panic attacks. They’re awful, but you’re in there and often it’s part of your social situation where you can’t really just leave. You have to find a way to self soothe. The sleep oil is ‘circadian rhythm,’ and you can apply it right above the head, sides of the ears, back of the head. What it does is it triggers the natural release of melatonin.

One thing that’s challenging in our environment today, it’s not just the toxins but it’s the negative synergies between the toxins. You mentioned aluminum from the deodorant that gets into the brain. The aluminum kind of throws off the pineal gland’s ability to release melatonin. [Glyphosate 00:27:55], which is what they spray on GMO crops, in Roundup Ready, also interacts in kind of a negative way. You have all these barriers against you and against these poor children that coming up these toxic worlds. One way to negatively offset them, you can reduce the bad things and also expand the good.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: Is to trigger the natural release of melatonin, or use melatonin. It’s a great detoxifying agent. It allows the brain to drop into that REM sleep, so that the lymphatic system, the brain lymphatic system, which is called the glymphatic system, can kind of wash through the brain, clean out the toxins. Hopefully your neck is able to let it drain down, and then it just leaves your body. It’s one less problem to deal with.

Trina Felber: Awesome. Oh my gosh, that’s so amazing.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: I want to thank you so much for being on here. Is there anything else you want to add that we didn’t touch on?

Jodi Cohen: I guess the only thing I want to add is that I think there’s a lot of fear around essential oils, that people might do it wrong, or you might buy the wrong brand. I don’t … I kind of want to put that to rest. I would encourage you not to be afraid. You’re not going to do it wrong. You’re safe. You can buy oils at your supermarket. It’s a little bit like you can buy clothes at Target.

Trina Felber: Right.

Jodi Cohen: They’re fine. If you want them to last for 15 years, maybe you up-level a little bit and buy a more expensive brand. You’re really … I don’t see a lot of negative and I don’t think you’re going to do it wrong.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: I’m giving you permission to just-

Trina Felber: Try it.

Jodi Cohen: … get started where you want to.

Trina Felber: Yeah, and it’s something that can be done very easily. You can incorporate it into your lifestyle. It’s not going to take a lot of time.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: It’s not going to take a lot of effort.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: You can have great results. I know when I’m in the parasympathetic mode, I am so calm and chilled. It feels so good.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: It’s so amazing to really-

Jodi Cohen: … the best example is for anyone who gets hangry, like they get really anxious when they’re hungry. Then once you eat, not overeat, but kind of like the difference between being starving and ravenous and cranky, and just eating a good meal or maybe having a glass of wine.

Trina Felber: Yeah.

Jodi Cohen: That’s the difference between being kind of in the sympathetic stressed out state and the parasympathetic state. It makes it easier to do everything.

Trina Felber: It does.

Jodi Cohen: Your resilience is built up. It cracks me up. Seattle’s traffic is terrible. Sometimes people will cut me off, and I won’t care.

I’ll be like, “Oh, who cares? Maybe they’re in a hurry.” Other times, four letter words fly out of my mouth. I’m the same person. I’m just either in this sympathetic state or the parasynthetic state. That kind of determines my resilience to react to external stimuli.

Trina Felber: Right. I like to bring this all full circle with this, ‘The Healthy Me,’ because that’s why I created this whole podcast and whole site about ‘The Healthy Me’ is that you have to find your healthy center.

Jodi Cohen: Yes.

Trina Felber: And who you are; because you have to recognize when you’re not that healthy person; because … Like when you say those words come ‘flying out,’ you know that’s not your healthy person.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: There’s probably a reason. Now, I’m not saying that you’re going to be able to automatically make those changes, but to be aware of who the healthy person is; because then it’s … And we talked about balance, bringing yourself back to balance. When you start making those four letter words come out of your mouth, you can recognize it and go, ‘Holy moly, I’m not healthy right now. Something’s going on.’ Then, you can bring yourself back to balance. Awareness is the key and the first step, so that’s why this whole thing was built around ‘The Healthy Me,’ and figuring out who that is so that when you are outside of that healthy person, you can bring yourself back to that core healthy person.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, and oils are a very fast route to get there.

Trina Felber: They are. They work.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah.

Trina Felber: I mean not just … I know they work, so I’m preaching to the choir; only because that’s what I use in all of my formulas is essential oils. I know topically what they do and internally at the cellular level what they do. You just found another way to do it.

Jodi Cohen: Exactly.

Trina Felber: With incorporating your central nervous system.

Jodi Cohen: Right.

Trina Felber: Which is dead-on and awesome. I high five to you.

Jodi Cohen: High five back. I love your stuff. Thank you for having me.

Trina Felber: Jodi, where can we find you? Everybody out there is dying right now that they need to sniff something.

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, Vibrant Blue Oils, V-I-B-R-A-N-T blue, like the color, oils. If you have questions, you can email me at [email protected] We have a special gift for you guys.

Trina Felber: Awesome, yeah. I know you’re going to give a gift … coupon code.

Jodi Cohen: Well, we’ll give a coupon code. I think I’ll give away the first chapter of my book.

Trina Felber: Oh nice.

Jodi Cohen: Which goes into a little bit more detail about how essential oils work and why they work, just if you’re curious and you’re new to this; and you want a little bit more science and data.

Trina Felber: Yeah, and that’s awesome book. I have a copy of your book. Everybody can email you or they can go to your website. What about Facebook? Are you on Facebook? You have Facebook, don’t you?

Jodi Cohen: I am on Facebook. I am on Facebook. I’m on Instagram. I’m on Pinterest. Actually, we have greats.

Trina Felber: Okay, yeah. Awesome. Check out Jodi from [crosstalk 00:33:05] Vibrant Blue Oils; and kudos to you. Thank you so much for joining me. What you have is amazing. You have an amazing gift, not just … and I thank you for sharing that gift to the world.

Jodi Cohen: Well thank you.

Trina Felber: So many people have the gift but they don’t let other people have part of their gift, which is mostly the joy of giving the gift is giving the gift. I thank you for giving the gift.

Jodi Cohen: And you, too. Thank you.

Trina Felber: Thanks, Jodi.

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